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Subject: Re: Issues with IOREQ on the 8085 CPU
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To: Doug Jackson <doug@doughq.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2024 12:07:45 -0800
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi D=
oug</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I do happen to have a s=
et in something close to white or ivory. I also have a fan plenum sitting ar=
ound that you can have.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I a=
m thinking there was something else I needed to send you. But maybe I am thi=
nking about the prolog display board you made that I need to order some pcbs=
. &nbsp;Was there anything else you needed?</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">Let me know if the off white is ok if I can print another s=
et.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Dec 18, 202=
4, at 11:58=E2=80=AFAM, Doug Jackson &lt;doug@doughq.com&gt; wrote:<br><br><=
/blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div d=
ir=3D"auto">Hi Craig,<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I did res=
pond to the shop email, but it didn't get through.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><b=
r></div><div dir=3D"auto">I would like black, or red.&nbsp; It doesn't reall=
y matter.&nbsp; If you have a set already printed then that would be awesome=
.&nbsp; &nbsp;I can't get anything economically printed here, and don't have=
 my own facilities, so paying the extra for postage is totally ok.</div><div=
 dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I don't have the capacity to progr=
am 8755 devices.&nbsp; I am happy to on-post an 8755 if you include it in th=
e package to somebody here in Australia if that's helpful.&nbsp; No charge.&=
nbsp; I appreciate your work, it has inspired me to do lots more with the ST=
D bus.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Doug</div></=
div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" cl=
ass=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, 19 Dec 2024, 4:51=E2=80=AFam SBC-85, &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:craig@sbc-85.com">craig@sbc-85.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc sol=
id;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">Hi Doug,</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I see you order=
ed a set of card guides for the std backplane. What color do you want?&nbsp;=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Also, can you program 8755 eproms? There is someone i=
n Australia that needs one.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>Regards</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Craig</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite">On Jan 31, 2024, at 2:54=E2=80=AFAM, Doug Jackson &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:doug@doughq.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">doug@doughq.co=
m</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div di=
r=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmai=
l_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi Craig,</div=
><div><br></div><div>I feel like a complete idiot - I had the ground pin of t=
he decoder (U2) in my card bent under the package, open circuit.</div><div><=
br></div><div>As soon as I connected it to ground, the circuit behaved beaut=
ifully..</div><div><br></div><div>Now to populate the 7303 reproduction (the=
 boards arrived today :-) )&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Kindest regards,<=
/div><div><br></div><div>Doug Jackson</div><div><br></div><div>em: <a href=3D=
"mailto:doug@doughq.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">doug@doughq.co=
m</a></div><div>ph: 0414 986878</div><div><br></div><div>Follow my amateur r=
adio adventures at <a href=3D"http://vk1zdj.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"no=
referrer">vk1zdj.net</a></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div><=
/div></div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" c=
lass=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 at 20:53, Doug Jackson &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:doug@doughq.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">doug@doughq.co=
m</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><=
div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Craig,<div><br></div><div>I have been tearing my hair out=
 with&nbsp;the 8085 CPU board, and I suspect that there is a small issue wit=
h decoding IO/M* for use as a IOREA* signal.</div><div><br></div><div>The CP=
U simply buffers IO/M* and passes it out as being IOREQ* on the STD bus.</di=
v><div><br></div><div>I have designed a simple Triac output card that uses I=
OREQ* as an IO request line, and it is randomly toggling.&nbsp; A trawl thro=
ugh the datasheets shows this:</div><div><br></div><div><div>&lt;image.png&g=
t;</div><br></div><div><br></div><div>It seems you have to see S0 or S1 go l=
ow before you can believe that IO/M* is an I/O signal.</div><div><br></div><=
div>I also spotted the&nbsp;beauty on the board:</div><div><br></div><div><d=
iv>&lt;image.png&gt;</div><br></div><div><br></div><div>It looks like you in=
advertently grounded S0 and S1 through the DB9 connector, but a quich&nbsp;c=
heck with a multimeter suggests that they are open.</div><div><br></div><div=
>I have to&nbsp;double check the Gerbers, but it looks like I have to add ad=
ditional logic to validate IOREQ* before it leaves the CPU card.</div><div><=
br></div><div>This is the decode logic I have used - which I can't immediate=
ly spot anything weird with:</div><div><br></div><div><div>&lt;image.png&gt;=
</div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Have you noticed&nbsp;anything interesti=
ng with&nbsp;I/O cards?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br clear=3D=
"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Kindest r=
egards,</div><div><br></div><div>Doug Jackson</div><div><br></div><div>em: <=
a href=3D"mailto:doug@doughq.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">doug@=
doughq.com</a></div><div>ph: 0414 986878</div><div><br></div><div>Follow my a=
mateur radio adventures at <a href=3D"http://vk1zdj.net" target=3D"_blank" r=
el=3D"noreferrer">vk1zdj.net</a></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div=
></div></div></div></div></div>
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