Return-Path: Delivered-To: craig@sbc-85.com Received: from gator4254.hostgator.com by gator4254.hostgator.com with LMTP id 0NZuHOZqdmZ80AIAcizydQ (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 22 Jun 2024 01:10:46 -0500 Return-path: Envelope-to: craig@sbc-85.com Delivery-date: Sat, 22 Jun 2024 01:10:46 -0500 Received: from mail-ed1-f52.google.com ([209.85.208.52]:54596) by gator4254.hostgator.com with esmtps (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.96.2) (envelope-from ) id 1sKtxV-0016M3-2u for craig@sbc-85.com; Sat, 22 Jun 2024 01:10:46 -0500 Received: by mail-ed1-f52.google.com with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-57d280e2d5dso2287522a12.1 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2024 23:10:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1719036634; x=1719641434; darn=sbc-85.com; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=vphzGHB3ShS6BxrIVGan68GWOySFbim9jpemIMM6Mak=; b=F9B+aHfoM5kTF/63009Zbv18yk84I7lxBVupeaxBAsuRTuKzYKaTxqnyqUxI8hd+O2 9EZZNKrAZYk9NFBpfY/FYEQWnjbJr4kDdV07mSuPIIEKUNbFIk6Qu9svqsZXS+YH/nrg W00VnUGO+eLXWqTH9E5g1ddKqisyn0Fm0uPyzurfff5DPFvJw8ovidZC79uG5XsoGf0c UQmhxVtFHxo2Si4JX54PKZ5ejTzLzdXQ06w0PL4Me0bglpJGCiacjLlYwfOM6tY8hrCr LHWaFSvZasAmHVQwx8Ns75apfk/DwKO+JgKUAUIZJMw+aNpPxxNN5tzFRxweu5U8Obeg kxsw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1719036634; x=1719641434; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=vphzGHB3ShS6BxrIVGan68GWOySFbim9jpemIMM6Mak=; b=Ai1dv06uaXUKxK2bs1O9Zf2gC3OAzlPi3q+Tkvbwe+nZSxi/6NnqkMd7PbveVP1UFQ bgLih8xB5f3mqPLK4OoC5cZSXuC28upZG4MUeNBIxruo8J65zh1/Txbv70JNePQTgwBT jZPhoy67wxZVH1qGm4yt6C1LwaGd4sXbgCL+TGmgkx7+MqoUygXsrVc4CiRMyxDppEfq aRKfOtNmuTBQ3v1hKTUNjBcejvNtufscWx3ORA+UyrCwho5S8/BA23rls6BYD6sj2B1q hiniucfHdgVFw3BOs0G4Hi8wV5qbO7xHo8yM6kPbpDfoVyDFz/e3l6XXzbbjOONuvct/ AhQw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxOsTrpvCzS/xKcvOyvq6AQmEhzIpVZHs1UWU6ZlRyiw0q3vpuu 8ERmh+MZW5Q372FYY2RRG0Rgc5saBV+/NUXmb5JaNxZTmxRPEo4T7FpmakzyYtSwn9aZJC5tFZG j7aV3Egsb5F6wnir9oqJEeq33B12GDQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEV8Bw4fRo7q19lSKuRe7xZ3dcoOdZWN16tUDLG4MT8Ik4+TgXhKUkTG+kYeS+r59VHMt9oNL2XcCsBVchoU60= X-Received: by 2002:a50:cdc4:0:b0:57c:6c1c:f942 with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-57d07ee7911mr6851692a12.38.1719036633456; Fri, 21 Jun 2024 23:10:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <773BDEDC-8068-4F97-8860-A16F184A1535@sbc-85.com> In-Reply-To: From: Scott Baker Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 23:10:21 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: intel iPDS adapter board To: SBC-85 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e4a715061b746789" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 X-Spam-Score: -1 X-Spam-Bar: / X-Spam-Flag: NO --000000000000e4a715061b746789 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hmm, an interesting thing happened tonight... My iPDS started to report error 62 ("illegal track address") when accessing the bubble board. At first when reading files intermittently, and eventually failed to work at all. I did try a new bubble on the board with no luck -- I'm wondering if one of the old electrolytics on the board has failed, or one of the drivers. Was curious if you'd seen anything like that with your experiments with the bubbles. Scott On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 10:43=E2=80=AFPM Scott Baker wro= te: > Sure, Gerbers are now up at > https://github.com/sbelectronics/ipds/tree/master/ipds-120 > > Scott > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 10:16=E2=80=AFAM SBC-85 wrote: > >> Very good. Can you let me know when the gerber files are available? I >> will be sending in a board order this month and would like to include th= is. >> >> Regards >> Craig >> >> On Jun 2, 2024, at 10:53=E2=80=AFPM, Scott Baker wro= te: >> >> =EF=BB=BF >> I stopped procrastinating and finally designed the board over the >> Memorial Day weekend. Built it up today, my iPDS now boots from bubble: = :D >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D-7eX6EtbgDI >> >> Scott >> >> On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 4:32=E2=80=AFPM Scott Baker w= rote: >> >>> Did you recognize that other module that was next to the SBX-251. I >>> casually looked through the list of multimodules but that one did not j= ump >>> out at me. The large number of pins on the connectors suggested to me >>> either a GPIO or some kind of external store interface, but that was re= ally >>> just a guess. >>> >>> Recreating the multimodule adapter board remains the project I want to >>> do but just can't ever get around to doing it. It's kinda grunt work, b= eing >>> we already have a copy of the schematic and just need to copy it all. >>> >>> Scott >>> >>> On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 2:18=E2=80=AFPM SBC-85 wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Scott. >>>> I saw the uk iPDS. It is from the friend of a friend. I will follow up >>>> to see if the new owner will loan out their adapter card. My friend in= the >>>> UK could scan and get measurements. >>>> >>>> Other than that I have not proceeded and nothing from gslick, but I >>>> haven=E2=80=99t aggressively followed up. >>>> >>>> SBX module dimensions were completely documented so I think we could >>>> get really close. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Craig >>>> >>>> On May 2, 2024, at 11:56=E2=80=AFAM, Scott Baker w= rote: >>>> >>>> =EF=BB=BF >>>> Craig, >>>> >>>> Have you thought any more about making a >>>> multimodule-adapter reproduction? I'm tempted to take it on when my cu= rrent >>>> project is completed. Maybe work up a pcboard in a few weeks.Pulling >>>> dimensions off the SBX-251 would be straightforward enough, and a good >>>> guess at the overall board dimensions could be made by looking at the = iPDS >>>> motherboard. Not sure if you had any luck getting your hands on gslick= 's >>>> board to pull actual dimensions from it. >>>> >>>> Also, it looks like an iPDS with a multimodule adapter (and a SBX-251) >>>> just sold in England last night, but it went for GBP 335 or so. Not a = bad >>>> deal, I suppose, for whomever got it. >>>> >>>> Scott >>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 4:46=E2=80=AFPM wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Scott, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I haven=E2=80=99t given any thought to making reproductions of the 25= 1, I have >>>>> a couple and that is probably as many as I will ever use. I use one = on a >>>>> multibus card and the other I would put in the iPDS if I had an adapt= er >>>>> card. For some reason, multibus and bubble memory have a very limite= d >>>>> appeal. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> craig >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Scott Baker >>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 9, 2024 4:11 PM >>>>> *To:* craig@sbc-85.com >>>>> *Subject:* Re: intel iPDS adapter board >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Weird, my email is just a plain ordinary gmail. Once you let gmail >>>>> take everything over, you lose all visibility into how it actually wo= rks... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Best of luck with gslick and the ipds board. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Have you thought about reproducing the SBX-251? From the look of it, >>>>> it's little more than the reference circuit from the data book. I onl= y have >>>>> one SBX-251 and if I ever get this multimodule adapter working, would= be >>>>> nice to install two (if it can take two!). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Scott >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 2:41=E2=80=AFPM wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. Anyway, I was saying that I contacted someone I know in >>>>> seattle to see if gslick is in his circle of friends. He thinks that= he >>>>> knows him but not well. I put him on the task of getting the board o= n >>>>> loan, we will see if anything comes of it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I think the email bounce to your email comes and goes. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> craig >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Scott Baker >>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 9, 2024 2:31 PM >>>>> *To:* craig@sbc-85.com >>>>> *Subject:* Re: EM2ZeB4cadQh3jqG >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This one made it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Scott >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 2:29=E2=80=AFPM wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Scott, my host is asking me to send an email to you to figure out >>>>> why just your email is bouncing back. Please ignore if it comes thro= ugh. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --000000000000e4a715061b746789 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hmm, an interesting thing happened tonight... My iPDS star= ted to report error 62 ("illegal track address") when accessing t= he bubble board. At first when reading files intermittently, and eventually= failed to work at all. I did try a new bubble on the board with no luck --= I'm wondering if one of the old electrolytics on the board has failed,= or one of the drivers. Was curious if you'd seen anything like that wi= th your experiments with the bubbles.

Scott
<= br>
On Mon,= Jun 3, 2024 at 10:43=E2=80=AFPM Scott Baker <smbaker@gmail.com> wrote:
Sure, Gerbers are now up at=C2= =A0https://github.com/sbelectronics/ipds/tree/master/ipds-120=

Scott

On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 10:16=E2=80=AFAM = SBC-85 <craig@sbc-= 85.com> wrote:
Very good. = Can you let me know when the gerber files are available? I will be sending = in a board order this month and would like to include this.

Regards
Craig

On Jun 2, 2024, at 10:53= =E2=80=AFPM, Scott Baker <smbaker@gmail.com> wrote:

=EF=BB=BF
I stopped pro= crastinating and finally designed the board over the Memorial Day weekend. = Built it up today, my iPDS now boots from bubble: :D


Scott

On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 4:32=E2=80=AFPM Scott Baker <smbaker@gmail.com> w= rote:
Did you recognize that other module that was next to the SBX-251. = I casually looked through the list of multimodules but that one did not jum= p out at me. The large number of pins on the connectors suggested to me eit= her a GPIO or some kind of external store interface, but that was really ju= st a guess.

Recreating the multimodule=C2=A0adapter boar= d remains the project I want to do but just can't ever get around to do= ing it. It's kinda grunt work, being we already have a copy of the sche= matic and just need to copy it all.

Scott

On = Thu, May 2, 2024 at 2:18=E2=80=AFPM SBC-85 <craig@sbc-85.com> wrote:
Hi Scott.=C2=A0
I saw the uk= iPDS. It is from the friend of a friend. I will follow up to see if the ne= w owner will loan out their adapter card. My friend in the UK could scan an= d get measurements.=C2=A0

= Other than that I have not proceeded and nothing from gslick, but I haven= =E2=80=99t aggressively followed up.=C2=A0

=
SBX module dimensions were completely documented so I thin= k we could get really close. =C2=A0

Regards
Craig=C2=A0
<= br>
On May 2, 2024, at 11:56=E2=80=AFAM, Scott Bak= er <smbaker@gmail= .com> wrote:

=EF=BB=BF
Craig,

Have you = thought any more about making a multimodule-adapter=C2=A0reproduction? I= 9;m tempted=C2=A0to take it on when my current project is completed. Maybe = work up a pcboard in a few weeks.Pulling dimensions off the SBX-251 would b= e straightforward enough, and a good guess at the overall board dimensions = could be made by looking at the iPDS motherboard. Not sure if you had any l= uck getting your hands on gslick's board to pull actual dimensions from= it.

Also, it looks like an iPDS with a multimodul= e=C2=A0adapter (and a SBX-251) just sold in England last night, but it went= for GBP 335 or so. Not a bad deal, I suppose, for whomever got it.

Scott

On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 4:46=E2=80=AFPM <craig@sbc-85.com>= ; wrote:

Hi Scott,

=C2=A0

I haven=E2=80=99t given any thought to making repr= oductions of the 251, I have a couple and that is probably as many as I wil= l ever use.=C2=A0 I use one on a multibus card and the other I would put in= the iPDS if I had an adapter card.=C2=A0 For some reason, multibus and bub= ble memory have a very limited appeal.

=C2=A0

Regards

craig=

= =C2=A0

From: Scott Baker <smbaker@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April= 9, 2024 4:11 PM
To: craig@sbc-85.com
Subject: Re: intel iPDS adapter = board

=C2=A0=

Weird, my email is just a plain ordinar= y gmail. Once you let gmail take everything over, you lose all visibility i= nto how it actually works...

<= u>=C2=A0

Best of luck with = gslick and the ipds board.

=C2=A0

Have you thoug= ht about reproducing the SBX-251? From the look of it, it's little more= than the reference circuit from the data book. I only have one SBX-251 and= if I ever get this multimodule adapter working, would be nice to install t= wo (if it can take two!).

=C2=A0

Scott=

=C2=A0

On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 2:41=E2=80=AFPM <craig@sbc-85.com> wrote:

Thanks.=C2=A0 Anyway, I was saying that I contacted so= meone I know in seattle to see if gslick is in his circle of friends.=C2=A0= He thinks that he knows him but not well.=C2=A0 I put him on the task of g= etting the board on loan, we will see if anything comes of it.

=C2=A0

I think the email bounce to your email comes and goes.

=C2=A0=

Regard= s

craig

=C2=A0

From: Scott Baker <smbaker@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2024 2:31 PM
To: craig@sbc-85.com
Subject: Re: EM2Z= eB4cadQh3jqG

=C2=A0=

This one made it.<= /p>

=C2=A0

Scott

= =C2=A0

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