Return-Path: Delivered-To: craig@sbc-85.com Received: from gator4254.hostgator.com by gator4254.hostgator.com with LMTP id eOvvGpOpXmZ7lAYAcizydQ (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 04 Jun 2024 00:43:47 -0500 Return-path: Envelope-to: craig@sbc-85.com Delivery-date: Tue, 04 Jun 2024 00:43:47 -0500 Received: from mail-ej1-f45.google.com ([209.85.218.45]:55542) by gator4254.hostgator.com with esmtps (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.96.2) (envelope-from ) id 1sEMxW-0020qc-31 for craig@sbc-85.com; Tue, 04 Jun 2024 00:43:47 -0500 Received: by mail-ej1-f45.google.com with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-a689ad8d1f6so387118066b.2 for ; Mon, 03 Jun 2024 22:43:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1717479814; x=1718084614; darn=sbc-85.com; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=yMx2i67ApWfc/aWIvY5wlsBzgr3dKDKR66X7eGrTBPA=; b=FF3XLS7MhENubk7AKhV2ma3FtGn+BJHelP2eE/uw65DjoJNHCPtS26MBORzVqmokvo fGjN6FGHKLa92CAgbidkL6IA/xHvtiumR6cO82SoRTi2dNAlInkzgFfePWVe9Pu50NUg d/AAFYJlQQJNJnaS6rkHXBH05Fx5WPZOOeZqLmgoA/EWoTcbevq/2bejvtyUdXsNGzje pwzEANRII3jr6wFZ3iZyhVD0V9cZ9ERPr+Y9igEidcYy1fziIDNTnB6oO4u5je0+ORoP IhmVLPFWx+IeaXU/RCTDe3DNcW+5CSiHWhMTr0K3qdhmj9rZEcESquuSsQKkrOuGz+IE A7Fg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1717479814; x=1718084614; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=yMx2i67ApWfc/aWIvY5wlsBzgr3dKDKR66X7eGrTBPA=; b=muLQg5JlfDf+umouGHJA+Br/f7AwoiwKzn8fUJH3bgjXDZuctmMTDt9FFPnepchX7h kVnmXoDlPAb9pMJIIHVmjsZzZixIlMKSQcK+/TaqJVrGEoQaXdHtNkvuDdURxhEfbA+C Gtnx5xbUtPkjVaIRKtp7LeCUh6n8q+6WkptuUPCfmmlC30pYXfZp+sHhRi5tJi7+bGj8 8zxd2SN89/FD5BbnGHwSVQUF8KJSbjKO0Nf/aKd4W6B/5fd3AaolklxaLcTemEmAMAqn 3JFYyuJuLIpDflooFYmOO+9pl0I057I5uRtG9Z/adFnGYwxyiimpzhIJD/lsXhrn2Ycq kzTA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyG0yzhZWgqytvfqAZpJM/iHRi9q0+Yj32zPIFaHkClggjeQE2a VE/kso1AmqNpzST7Zf+GJO+ObR8+uEvRvxqtIPKC5nvmYKg+czv7YVEl5lYk9tWZ/Wl8q62m4A/ 7E/bWV18Xit4N22cHR+v/28uCxLAWGdTX X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFvqqbA36ER7kcqiv04fIAwQuW/HMUKV6kOfOHlgR6mo/uIZqDwiMHMuGpYglk1X+iFEEFPqiH5ajJ1g3Glhcg= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:b385:b0:a68:a79c:bf4e with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-a68a79cc131mr439912666b.69.1717479813432; Mon, 03 Jun 2024 22:43:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <773BDEDC-8068-4F97-8860-A16F184A1535@sbc-85.com> In-Reply-To: <773BDEDC-8068-4F97-8860-A16F184A1535@sbc-85.com> From: Scott Baker Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2024 22:43:20 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: intel iPDS adapter board To: SBC-85 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000304a47061a09ee1e" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 X-Spam-Score: -1 X-Spam-Bar: / X-Spam-Flag: NO --000000000000304a47061a09ee1e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sure, Gerbers are now up at https://github.com/sbelectronics/ipds/tree/master/ipds-120 Scott On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 10:16=E2=80=AFAM SBC-85 wrote: > Very good. Can you let me know when the gerber files are available? I wil= l > be sending in a board order this month and would like to include this. > > Regards > Craig > > On Jun 2, 2024, at 10:53=E2=80=AFPM, Scott Baker wrot= e: > > =EF=BB=BF > I stopped procrastinating and finally designed the board over the Memoria= l > Day weekend. Built it up today, my iPDS now boots from bubble: :D > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D-7eX6EtbgDI > > Scott > > On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 4:32=E2=80=AFPM Scott Baker wr= ote: > >> Did you recognize that other module that was next to the SBX-251. I >> casually looked through the list of multimodules but that one did not ju= mp >> out at me. The large number of pins on the connectors suggested to me >> either a GPIO or some kind of external store interface, but that was rea= lly >> just a guess. >> >> Recreating the multimodule adapter board remains the project I want to d= o >> but just can't ever get around to doing it. It's kinda grunt work, being= we >> already have a copy of the schematic and just need to copy it all. >> >> Scott >> >> On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 2:18=E2=80=AFPM SBC-85 wrote: >> >>> Hi Scott. >>> I saw the uk iPDS. It is from the friend of a friend. I will follow up >>> to see if the new owner will loan out their adapter card. My friend in = the >>> UK could scan and get measurements. >>> >>> Other than that I have not proceeded and nothing from gslick, but I >>> haven=E2=80=99t aggressively followed up. >>> >>> SBX module dimensions were completely documented so I think we could ge= t >>> really close. >>> >>> Regards >>> Craig >>> >>> On May 2, 2024, at 11:56=E2=80=AFAM, Scott Baker wr= ote: >>> >>> =EF=BB=BF >>> Craig, >>> >>> Have you thought any more about making a >>> multimodule-adapter reproduction? I'm tempted to take it on when my cur= rent >>> project is completed. Maybe work up a pcboard in a few weeks.Pulling >>> dimensions off the SBX-251 would be straightforward enough, and a good >>> guess at the overall board dimensions could be made by looking at the i= PDS >>> motherboard. Not sure if you had any luck getting your hands on gslick'= s >>> board to pull actual dimensions from it. >>> >>> Also, it looks like an iPDS with a multimodule adapter (and a SBX-251) >>> just sold in England last night, but it went for GBP 335 or so. Not a b= ad >>> deal, I suppose, for whomever got it. >>> >>> Scott >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 4:46=E2=80=AFPM wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Scott, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I haven=E2=80=99t given any thought to making reproductions of the 251= , I have >>>> a couple and that is probably as many as I will ever use. I use one o= n a >>>> multibus card and the other I would put in the iPDS if I had an adapte= r >>>> card. For some reason, multibus and bubble memory have a very limited >>>> appeal. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> craig >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Scott Baker >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 9, 2024 4:11 PM >>>> *To:* craig@sbc-85.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: intel iPDS adapter board >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Weird, my email is just a plain ordinary gmail. Once you let gmail tak= e >>>> everything over, you lose all visibility into how it actually works... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Best of luck with gslick and the ipds board. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Have you thought about reproducing the SBX-251? From the look of it, >>>> it's little more than the reference circuit from the data book. I only= have >>>> one SBX-251 and if I ever get this multimodule adapter working, would = be >>>> nice to install two (if it can take two!). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Scott >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 2:41=E2=80=AFPM wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks. Anyway, I was saying that I contacted someone I know in >>>> seattle to see if gslick is in his circle of friends. He thinks that = he >>>> knows him but not well. I put him on the task of getting the board on >>>> loan, we will see if anything comes of it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I think the email bounce to your email comes and goes. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> craig >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Scott Baker >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 9, 2024 2:31 PM >>>> *To:* craig@sbc-85.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: EM2ZeB4cadQh3jqG >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This one made it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Scott >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 2:29=E2=80=AFPM wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Scott, my host is asking me to send an email to you to figure out >>>> why just your email is bouncing back. Please ignore if it comes throu= gh. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --000000000000304a47061a09ee1e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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On Mon, Jun= 3, 2024 at 10:16=E2=80=AFAM SBC-85 <craig@sbc-85.com> wrote:
= Very good. Can you let me know when the gerber files are available? I will = be sending in a board order this month and would like to include this.

Regards
= Craig

On Jun 2, 2024, a= t 10:53=E2=80=AFPM, Scott Baker <smbaker@gmail.com> wrote:

=
=EF=BB=BF
I stop= ped procrastinating and finally designed the board over the Memorial Day we= ekend. Built it up today, my iPDS now boots from bubble: :D

<= div>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D-7eX6EtbgDI

Scott

On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 4:32=E2=80=AFPM Scott Baker <= smbaker@gmail.com> wrote:
Did you recognize that other module that was next to the SBX-= 251. I casually looked through the list of multimodules but that one did no= t jump out at me. The large number of pins on the connectors suggested to m= e either a GPIO or some kind of external store interface, but that was real= ly just a guess.

Recreating the multimodule=C2=A0adapter= board remains the project I want to do but just can't ever get around = to doing it. It's kinda grunt work, being we already have a copy of the= schematic and just need to copy it all.

Scott

On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 2:18=E2=80=AFPM SBC-85 <craig@sbc-85.com> wrote:
Hi Scott.=C2=A0
I saw= the uk iPDS. It is from the friend of a friend. I will follow up to see if= the new owner will loan out their adapter card. My friend in the UK could = scan and get measurements.=C2=A0

Other than that I have not proceeded and nothing from gslick, but = I haven=E2=80=99t aggressively followed up.=C2=A0
SBX module dimensions were completely documented so= I think we could get really close. =C2=A0

=
Regards
Craig=C2=A0

On May 2, 2024, at 11:56=E2=80=AFAM, Sc= ott Baker <smbake= r@gmail.com> wrote:

=EF=BB=BF
Craig,

Ha= ve you thought any more about making a multimodule-adapter=C2=A0reproductio= n? I'm tempted=C2=A0to take it on when my current project is completed.= Maybe work up a pcboard in a few weeks.Pulling dimensions off the SBX-251 = would be straightforward enough, and a good guess at the overall board dime= nsions could be made by looking at the iPDS motherboard. Not sure if you ha= d any luck getting your hands on gslick's board to pull actual dimensio= ns from it.

Also, it looks like an iPDS with a mul= timodule=C2=A0adapter (and a SBX-251) just sold in England last night, but = it went for GBP 335 or so. Not a bad deal, I suppose, for whomever got it.<= /div>

Scott

On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 4:46=E2=80=AFPM = <craig@sbc-85.com<= /a>> wrote:
<= div>

Hi Scott,

=C2=A0

= I haven=E2=80=99t given any thought to makin= g reproductions of the 251, I have a couple and that is probably as many as= I will ever use.=C2=A0 I use one on a multibus card and the other I would = put in the iPDS if I had an adapter card.=C2=A0 For some reason, multibus a= nd bubble memory have a very limited appeal.

=C2=A0=

Regards=

craig<= u>

=C2=A0

From: Scott Baker <smbaker@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday,= April 9, 2024 4:11 PM
To: craig@sbc-85.com
Subject: Re: intel iPDS adap= ter board

=C2= =A0

Weird, my email is just a plain o= rdinary gmail. Once you let gmail take everything over, you lose all visibi= lity into how it actually works...

=C2=A0

Best of luck= with gslick and the ipds board.

=C2=A0

Have you= thought about reproducing the SBX-251? From the look of it, it's littl= e more than the reference circuit from the data book. I only have one SBX-2= 51 and if I ever get this multimodule adapter working, would be nice to ins= tall two (if it can take two!).

=C2=A0

Scott<= /u>

=C2=A0

On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 2:41=E2=80=AFPM <craig@sbc-85.com> wrote:=

Thanks.=C2=A0 Anyway, I was saying that I contac= ted someone I know in seattle to see if gslick is in his circle of friends.= =C2=A0 He thinks that he knows him but not well.=C2=A0 I put him on the tas= k of getting the board on loan, we will see if anything comes of it.=

=C2= =A0

I think the email bounce to your email comes and goes.=

=C2=A0

= Regards

craig

=C2=A0

From: Scott Baker <smbaker@gmail.com>
S= ent: Tuesday, April 9, 2024 2:31 PM
To: craig@sbc-85.com
Subject: Re= : EM2ZeB4cadQh3jqG

=C2= =A0

This one made it.

=C2=A0

Scott

=C2=A0

On Tue, Apr 9, = 2024 at 2:29=E2=80=AFPM= <craig@sbc-85.com= > wrote:

Hi Scott, my host is asking m= e to send an email to you to figure out why just your email is bouncing bac= k.=C2=A0 Please ignore if it comes through.

=C2=A0<= /p>

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