Return-Path: Delivered-To: craig@sbc-85.com Received: from gator4254.hostgator.com by gator4254.hostgator.com with LMTP id GL5PJYkiNGYHZQ0AcizydQ (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 02 May 2024 18:32:25 -0500 Return-path: Envelope-to: craig@sbc-85.com Delivery-date: Thu, 02 May 2024 18:32:25 -0500 Received: from mail-ej1-f44.google.com ([209.85.218.44]:56728) by gator4254.hostgator.com with esmtps (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.96.2) (envelope-from ) id 1s2fub-0049eX-0R for craig@sbc-85.com; Thu, 02 May 2024 18:32:25 -0500 Received: by mail-ej1-f44.google.com with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-a598c4360daso41150866b.1 for ; Thu, 02 May 2024 16:32:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1714692733; x=1715297533; darn=sbc-85.com; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=psN6O1rQ8RsmqvVw6kyEb/HVFKJ5lCpLxI62nFOGlFM=; b=Qc9bR5Nfy9+U54Zsp1JoV/XvCcqYh/QdBUV3XFX+9/4zlyixjsa2skmmpC2L9Lkog8 +/mUp49UQMTELhBhehq/F4KQ+YsCiOb4/Ma0BesXA2ph3Y4tObX8PITA1bnkUtKRnSlh 5O+dSoLdhAHc/w7FsthjAKo3ahz0mZprl/8CI9fJFMzMEcmpFlFpxfEdrDYfTmO19+Oh yqAqFxXqjdgQ0Y2BYqqih6R59wKnrtIZDoyiR7dooDKpPyhpU+8DSCEPdBev1TOa8YaH ZotnhVEhPnKqKLweTJ2OaBbkAsddkV+gEhpbf/kyiv46zssfonkXMfdWLaG9Js/WpEJj C5Qg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1714692733; x=1715297533; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=psN6O1rQ8RsmqvVw6kyEb/HVFKJ5lCpLxI62nFOGlFM=; b=njwsf7RXmYq27ayptVkXC2NwNgXkAc0LS3IChSm5aPYZdF/YtFNmXLAtpDUVcvrtT/ AEIZ+u0Wt2BJtF0a5HQDeO4S3+h1AdOo7hXaIvhyvGto5BxiP07M4HBcg7saHBkHxOm4 UKZZ74AO07MBuxL+/t7YA1u/AnA3AG86w77zB7i3aipRzlnFiw8CmscOXVBBURwIfD5v Pl64wcTHj82lVmZ4+wwUJBnnC5ULxhxWDmtF/hbmA86uctw8UlhckSC5NSgle1X3PEWe 8lLGHIZFZ3aV4K8vuOC+uX6pVz2MCwrIyQsNicjc2n8UbQTj+fa3pTioUUXbnVxl6cPL C/jw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxyeEEumQBXH/V7J8CgTFxvISZFX1xZkRNorCTQN7PDNNvNibIo gHv2Z2+1Xl2GE4MAjLkNqx//pdNJ7oczVb/IPuHm1qQ3k3geWr56z1eXWYGfS6y+6Dp8je5Thev 0VTLk7a/EhQ80D+jzQMYK9o/b9oTYtw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHoohgANZ4p7vh4DR6HMqzFwmdplNtwOUug4lQgvE+CmvMjo2miJy65Upqq0xfkzhCh6AXnMlKCHs+pQuJnRTA= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:5fd4:b0:a51:d522:13dd with SMTP id k20-20020a1709065fd400b00a51d52213ddmr484095ejv.47.1714692732726; Thu, 02 May 2024 16:32:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Scott Baker Date: Thu, 2 May 2024 16:32:00 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: intel iPDS adapter board To: SBC-85 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000003bb4d60617810389" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 X-Spam-Score: -1 X-Spam-Bar: / X-Spam-Flag: NO --0000000000003bb4d60617810389 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Did you recognize that other module that was next to the SBX-251. I casually looked through the list of multimodules but that one did not jump out at me. The large number of pins on the connectors suggested to me either a GPIO or some kind of external store interface, but that was really just a guess. Recreating the multimodule adapter board remains the project I want to do but just can't ever get around to doing it. It's kinda grunt work, being we already have a copy of the schematic and just need to copy it all. Scott On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 2:18=E2=80=AFPM SBC-85 wrote: > Hi Scott. > I saw the uk iPDS. It is from the friend of a friend. I will follow up to > see if the new owner will loan out their adapter card. My friend in the U= K > could scan and get measurements. > > Other than that I have not proceeded and nothing from gslick, but I > haven=E2=80=99t aggressively followed up. > > SBX module dimensions were completely documented so I think we could get > really close. > > Regards > Craig > > On May 2, 2024, at 11:56=E2=80=AFAM, Scott Baker wrot= e: > > =EF=BB=BF > Craig, > > Have you thought any more about making a multimodule-adapter reproduction= ? > I'm tempted to take it on when my current project is completed. Maybe wor= k > up a pcboard in a few weeks.Pulling dimensions off the SBX-251 would be > straightforward enough, and a good guess at the overall board dimensions > could be made by looking at the iPDS motherboard. Not sure if you had any > luck getting your hands on gslick's board to pull actual dimensions from = it. > > Also, it looks like an iPDS with a multimodule adapter (and a SBX-251) > just sold in England last night, but it went for GBP 335 or so. Not a bad > deal, I suppose, for whomever got it. > > Scott > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 4:46=E2=80=AFPM wrote: > >> Hi Scott, >> >> >> >> I haven=E2=80=99t given any thought to making reproductions of the 251, = I have a >> couple and that is probably as many as I will ever use. I use one on a >> multibus card and the other I would put in the iPDS if I had an adapter >> card. For some reason, multibus and bubble memory have a very limited >> appeal. >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> craig >> >> >> >> *From:* Scott Baker >> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 9, 2024 4:11 PM >> *To:* craig@sbc-85.com >> *Subject:* Re: intel iPDS adapter board >> >> >> >> Weird, my email is just a plain ordinary gmail. Once you let gmail take >> everything over, you lose all visibility into how it actually works... >> >> >> >> Best of luck with gslick and the ipds board. >> >> >> >> Have you thought about reproducing the SBX-251? From the look of it, it'= s >> little more than the reference circuit from the data book. I only have o= ne >> SBX-251 and if I ever get this multimodule adapter working, would be nic= e >> to install two (if it can take two!). >> >> >> >> Scott >> >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 2:41=E2=80=AFPM wrote: >> >> Thanks. Anyway, I was saying that I contacted someone I know in seattle >> to see if gslick is in his circle of friends. He thinks that he knows h= im >> but not well. I put him on the task of getting the board on loan, we wi= ll >> see if anything comes of it. >> >> >> >> I think the email bounce to your email comes and goes. >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> craig >> >> >> >> *From:* Scott Baker >> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 9, 2024 2:31 PM >> *To:* craig@sbc-85.com >> *Subject:* Re: EM2ZeB4cadQh3jqG >> >> >> >> This one made it. >> >> >> >> Scott >> >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 2:29=E2=80=AFPM wrote: >> >> Hi Scott, my host is asking me to send an email to you to figure out why >> just your email is bouncing back. Please ignore if it comes through. >> >> >> >> --0000000000003bb4d60617810389 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Did you recognize that other module that was next to the S= BX-251. I casually looked through the list of multimodules but that one did= not jump out at me. The large number of pins on the connectors suggested t= o me either a GPIO or some kind of external store interface, but that was r= eally just a guess.

Recreating the multimodule=C2=A0adap= ter board remains the project I want to do but just can't ever get arou= nd to doing it. It's kinda grunt work, being we already have a copy of = the schematic and just need to copy it all.

Scott<= /div>

On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 2:18=E2=80=AFPM SBC-85 <craig@sbc-85.com> wrote:
<= div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Scott.=C2=A0
I saw the uk iPDS. It= is from the friend of a friend. I will follow up to see if the new owner w= ill loan out their adapter card. My friend in the UK could scan and get mea= surements.=C2=A0

Other tha= n that I have not proceeded and nothing from gslick, but I haven=E2=80=99t = aggressively followed up.=C2=A0

SBX module dimensions were completely documented so I think we could = get really close. =C2=A0

R= egards
Craig=C2=A0

On May 2, 2024, at 11:56=E2=80=AFAM, Scott Baker <smbaker@gmail.com>= ; wrote:

=EF=BB=BF
Craig,

Have you thought any= more about making a multimodule-adapter=C2=A0reproduction? I'm tempted= =C2=A0to take it on when my current project is completed. Maybe work up a p= cboard in a few weeks.Pulling dimensions off the SBX-251 would be straightf= orward enough, and a good guess at the overall board dimensions could be ma= de by looking at the iPDS motherboard. Not sure if you had any luck getting= your hands on gslick's board to pull actual dimensions from it.
<= div>
Also, it looks like an iPDS with a multimodule=C2=A0adap= ter (and a SBX-251) just sold in England last night, but it went for GBP 33= 5 or so. Not a bad deal, I suppose, for whomever got it.

Scott

On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 4:46=E2=80=AFPM <craig@sbc-85.com> wrote:
=

Hi Scott,<= u>

=C2=A0

I haven=E2=80=99t given any thought to making reproductions of= the 251, I have a couple and that is probably as many as I will ever use.= =C2=A0 I use one on a multibus card and the other I would put in the iPDS i= f I had an adapter card.=C2=A0 For some reason, multibus and bubble memory = have a very limited appeal.

= =C2=A0

Regards

craig

=C2=A0<= u>

From: Scott Baker <smbaker@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2024 4:= 11 PM
To: c= raig@sbc-85.com
Subject: Re: intel iPDS adapter board<= u>

=C2=A0

=

Weird, my email is just a plain ordinary gmail. Once= you let gmail take everything over, you lose all visibility into how it ac= tually works...

=C2=A0<= u>

Best of luck with gslick and th= e ipds board.

=C2= =A0

Have you thought about repr= oducing the SBX-251? From the look of it, it's little more than the ref= erence circuit from the data book. I only have one SBX-251 and if I ever ge= t this multimodule adapter working, would be nice to install two (if it can= take two!).

=C2= =A0

Scott

=C2=A0

On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 2:41=E2=80=AFPM <craig@sbc-85.com> wrote:

Thanks.=C2=A0 Anyway, I was saying that I contacted someone I kn= ow in seattle to see if gslick is in his circle of friends.=C2=A0 He thinks= that he knows him but not well.=C2=A0 I put him on the task of getting the= board on loan, we will see if anything comes of it.

=C2=A0

I think t= he email bounce to your email comes and goes.

=C2=A0

Regards

craig=

=C2=A0

From: Scott Baker <smbaker@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday= , April 9, 2024 2:31 PM
To: craig@sbc-85.com
Subject: Re: EM2ZeB4cadQh3j= qG

=C2=A0

This one made it.

=C2=A0

Scott

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On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 2:29=E2=80=AFPM <craig@sbc-85.com> wrote:<= u>

<= span style=3D"font-size:11pt">Hi Scott, my host is asking me to send an ema= il to you to figure out why just your email is bouncing back.=C2=A0 Please = ignore if it comes through.

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