Return-Path: Delivered-To: craig@sbc-85.com Received: from gator4254.hostgator.com by gator4254.hostgator.com with LMTP id OOVwKwWIO2UEwgAAcizydQ (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2023 04:51:01 -0500 Return-path: Envelope-to: craig@sbc-85.com Delivery-date: Fri, 27 Oct 2023 04:51:01 -0500 Received: from mail-wm1-f54.google.com ([209.85.128.54]:61766) by gator4254.hostgator.com with esmtps (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.96.2) (envelope-from ) id 1qwJUa-000FP3-2i for craig@sbc-85.com; Fri, 27 Oct 2023 04:51:01 -0500 Received: by mail-wm1-f54.google.com with SMTP id 5b1f17b1804b1-4083f61312eso14519835e9.3 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2023 02:50:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1698400249; x=1699005049; darn=sbc-85.com; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=vqanCwIz2C99xVNRAzpC8MDqNSjyIY501Bh2hmqsAN8=; b=hE7gr/6zZbGykTopY38+ye1AnwlOXCX2PgGnHBqL6IL2Erkb+6u8KLFoaTsMxfN9QS dBUX4NNym3HMj7I/s6Oa2AC3oV7DvrcTXywBNGjlAEZEnkFbmg9tQtnyegkiCtEoOsh/ Gr2grXqEKyP1OrYAJPRKXTZUqMUQK45zQP5wHKQbCg0e18neh9UKZv9Ypox6cA3lKfOq uwgp4UcDK60rHc3eg3fXZFoTtMYt8VfUZ595XtAbyXUI5Xpp//Ob9uUDQf+zdGw5m6vw Ye4h+Sjx+6S/0QJOf5rEMpo2vExxw+/TG3qJ0KauINTrvClPxuLDx8HCvR2V0r7IyQLx hzeQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1698400249; x=1699005049; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=vqanCwIz2C99xVNRAzpC8MDqNSjyIY501Bh2hmqsAN8=; b=hVVf0PnwaVm28OcGUb8U3OrzhYmx9E33BRLZNk1clzL1GBFvXdprs3EHVHlIu+ORvO mIoA7Xdni0fYD1rIbRP9frZk4s7nBzV1FsfZueBqRFIpbVDxVXDw5fVlEr8v0JDkfOuz 0tyxQYGSqUm2+V91O5PaMg7fC7oY+vScXw1Qe3gKFWGHhWWCe8rfiZ3Qgt8m/1KoHq9E 2S7+D8Ws04imD+MBOO9kD7mgZq6CTvpofRhKxsLZNzO+byBq+ES4RERToY6Na93C9/H5 kp8Vj+XkUpSh0JkMtS24im75sXw+zME4xdhlph6CnWofITkGdMm/xVSeSA0ggns/pmqy +rNQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yy7xWB9RAKiymb6w0eWKI3NKzjC7KeGKdB4elOGsFg9JMP3xLgp 4lhwMZNwtIcxLgNnEEkoLIr1wnKAloPrKHPEZOKTCAgsrgQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHutGUydRUh8CRuQHDUk4j61MlbHC61qoW4SRDiO2FypAYZWRuu8Vithj7uGrQDg9z4J177G2biFGra8b8x8F4= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6000:1108:b0:32d:88fd:5c65 with SMTP id z8-20020a056000110800b0032d88fd5c65mr1823148wrw.1.1698400248983; Fri, 27 Oct 2023 02:50:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Jon Hales Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2023 10:50:38 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_Ross_Milborne=E2=80=99s_S100_cards?= To: SBC-85 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000086f71d0608af9f4f" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 X-Spam-Score: -1 X-Spam-Bar: / X-Spam-Flag: NO --00000000000086f71d0608af9f4f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Craig I don't think that Ross had any interest in Multibus. He was certainly interested when I showed him an Intellec 8 that I had collected along with several Series II machines from a donor who was about to move to a different region of the UK - and who had decided that his MDS systems were not going to the new house. Ross was diagnosed with bone cancer (myeloma, I think). He volunteered to take part in a clinical trial of a novel treatment. However, delays in getting the research started meant that he missed the opportunity for a conventional treatment to start when his cancer was discovered. His career included being director of IT for a TV company, which allowed him to collect vintage computers and cars in retirement. He did a couple of YouTube videos. He and I discussed the ways in which a couple of Altair 8800b and an IMSAI 8080 could be demonstrated at the museum. This is where I met Kieran, who lives closer to the museum - as someone who could manage the machines Ross had restored and 'bring them to life' as part of the education aims of the museum. The ideas weren't realised - the museum staff dealing with the public are more interested in the 'gaming' side of home computers - which plays well with many visitors. I had various contacts with staff of the Living Computers: Museum and Labs. While I was on holiday one of their engineers visited the Cambridge museum with a colleague. I gather they took away various ideas about how to exhibit items to document the computer era. Their catchy slogan about putting a chair in front of the exhibits (rather than glass) was/is equally true of the approach at Cambridge. Regards Jon On Thu, 26 Oct 2023 at 21:57, SBC-85 wrote: > Did he do any multibus? Or mainly S100? > > I haven=E2=80=99t done S100 in many years but I thought I would get back = to it so > have been looking for interesting cards. > > I pity my kids when it is their turn to organize and sell off my all my > junk. > > Regards > Craig > > On Oct 26, 2023, at 1:45 PM, Jon Hales wrote: > > =EF=BB=BF > Yes, Ross and I met through the museum. I haven't wanted any of his > collection- so far. > > I met another son (Kieran), but haven't contacted Chris. > > > Regards > > > Jon > > On Thu, 26 Oct 2023, 21:38 SBC-85, wrote: > >> Hi Jon, >> >> This story gets interesting.. >> >> When I get boards from the kids selling off their dad=E2=80=99s stuff, I= often >> ask a bit about the father, just so I know just a little about who had t= he >> thing before me=E2=80=A6. Sort of an odd thing to want to know I suppose= =E2=80=A6 anyway=E2=80=A6 >> >> The two S100 cards I bought were actually from the same estate, listed >> under different seller accounts. When I asked about the father and gave >> them your address, it turns out you and the father knew each other.. Ros= s >> Milborne, passed in 2021. >> >> Chris, who is the son selling, thinks they are about 30% through all the >> collection. I don=E2=80=99t know what else they are going to list, and = I don=E2=80=99t >> have a particular list of things I want. They did have an 8080 BYTE S10= 0 >> CPU card last week but I didn=E2=80=99t win that one. It sold for a rea= sonable >> price, but another $40 in shipping drops what I could offer. But I woul= d >> have liked that card. >> >> Chris is going to hold onto these two boards for a week or so and then >> send these and whatever I find to buy in the mean time on to you. >> >> Regards >> Craig >> >> On Oct 26, 2023, at 4:50 AM, Jon Hales wrote: >> >> =EF=BB=BF >> Hi Craig >> >> My address is: >> >> Jon Hales >> 23 Barton Road >> Haslingfield >> Cambridgeshire >> CB23 1LL >> United Kingdom >> >> My eBay.co.uk identity is jh.dircon.net (when I signed up to eBay in >> 2000, my email provider was a company called Direct Connection). >> >> I'm a regular user of eBay and would have no difficulty in placing order= s >> on your behalf. It's more tricky if the items are being sold by auction >> with a specific end time - but not impossible. If you were going to pay = by >> PayPal I think they would only allow shipping to the registered address. >> >> I have used Royal Mail Economy Postage for sending items to the US on a >> number of occasions in the last 12 months - in each case hearing that th= e >> package had been delivered around 2-3 weeks after I posted it. I used a >> tracked service with insurance - but I think the tracking only covers th= e >> UK part of the journey. I assume USPS provides a different tracking numb= er >> for the final part of the journey. >> >> My experiences of eBay Global Shipping have been good. But I know others >> would regard this as hazardous. However, a potential method of shipping = to >> you would be in the form of a Buy It Now auction on eBay.co.uk where the >> price is the cost of my posting a package to the UK depot (and I state I= 'm >> paying for shipping within UK). We would agree on the exact time when I >> make the item live and would send you the item number. I think eBay wou= ld >> be easy to deal with in the event of a parcel being lost - and I know th= ey >> refund the purchase cost if the item is damaged in transit. >> >> Have you any news from your contact in Melbourne? >> >> Best regards >> >> Jon >> >> On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 at 22:27, wrote: >> >>> Thanks Jon, >>> >>> >>> >>> These are in the UK. Let me see if I can just change my shipping >>> address to yours temporarily. >>> >>> What address should I use? That way I can just buy and pay and then >>> settle up with you when ready to ship. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thank you >>> >>> craig >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Jon Hales >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 25, 2023 2:18 PM >>> *To:* SBC-85 >>> *Subject:* Re: Prompt 80/85 >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi Craig >>> >>> >>> >>> I'm happy to collect/receive and send one shipment. >>> >>> >>> >>> Would you like me to buy on your behalf (in the case of UK eBay auction= s >>> with a fixed price)? European shipping to UK is much more difficult aft= er >>> Brexit. >>> >>> >>> >>> We can discuss how you would prefer me to ship to you. >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Jon >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 25 Oct 2023, 21:44 , wrote: >>> >>> Hi Jon, >>> >>> >>> >>> OK to say no=E2=80=A6. but there are some ebay items I would like to bu= y (from >>> different sellers) but shipping on each one to the states is $45. Woul= d >>> you be willing to collect the orders and ship as one shipment to me? I >>> think I can just temporarily change my shipping address to yours. >>> >>> >>> >>> Again, no problem if it isn=E2=80=99t something you want to do. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> craig >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Jon Hales >>> *Sent:* Monday, October 9, 2023 12:37 AM >>> *To:* SBC-85 >>> *Subject:* Re: Prompt 80/85 >>> >>> >>> >>> Further searching led to this project (attached). I tried to follow the >>> link, but PCBWay doesn't appear to have this among the shared projects. >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Jon >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 08:25, Jon Hales wrote: >>> >>> With attachments >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 08:24, Jon Hales wrote: >>> >>> Hi Craig >>> >>> >>> >>> The top result of a Google search for Prompt-80 was oldcomputers.com, >>> which has a unit and the manuals. >>> >>> >>> >>> https://oldcomputermuseum.com/prompt_80-85.html# >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I had seen your response on the VCF Forum to the person looking for the >>> manual. If he is able to get anything from oldcomputers, it would be go= od >>> if he could provide a dump of the ROMS as well as good quality photos o= f >>> his Prompt-80. >>> >>> >>> >>> It's good to have the help of your contact in Melbourne. >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Jon >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 06:23, SBC-85 wrote: >>> >>> Jon, >>> Do you know anyone tha5 has a prompt 80 and would possibly have the >>> user=E2=80=99s manual and schematics? >>> >>> --00000000000086f71d0608af9f4f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Craig

I don't think that Ross ha= d any interest in Multibus. He was certainly interested when I showed him a= n Intellec 8 that I had collected along with several Series II machines fro= m a donor who was about to move to a different region of the UK - and who h= ad decided that his MDS systems were not going to the new house.
=
Ross was diagnosed with bone cancer (myeloma, I think). He v= olunteered to take part in a clinical trial of a novel treatment. However, = delays in getting the research started meant that he missed the opportunity= for a conventional treatment to start when his cancer was discovered. His = career included being director of IT for a TV company, which allowed him to= collect vintage computers and cars in retirement. He did a couple of YouTu= be videos.

He and I discussed the ways in which a = couple of Altair 8800b and an IMSAI 8080 could be demonstrated at the museu= m. This is where I met Kieran, who lives closer to the museum - as someone = who could manage the machines Ross had restored and 'bring them to life= ' as part of the education aims of the museum. The ideas weren't re= alised - the museum staff dealing with the public are more interested in th= e 'gaming' side of home computers - which plays well with many visi= tors.

I had various contacts with staff of the Liv= ing Computers: Museum and Labs. While I was on holiday one of their enginee= rs visited the Cambridge museum with a colleague. I gather they took away v= arious ideas about how to exhibit items to document the computer era. Their= catchy slogan about putting a chair in front of the exhibits (rather than = glass) was/is equally true of the approach at Cambridge.

Regards

Jon

On Thu, 26 Oct 2023 at 21:= 57, SBC-85 <craig@sbc-85.com>= wrote:
Did he do any multibus? O= r mainly S100?

I haven=E2= =80=99t done S100 in many years but I thought I would get back to it so hav= e been looking for interesting cards.

I pity my kids when it is their turn to organize and sell off m= y all my junk.

Regards
Craig

On Oct 26, 2023, at 1:45 PM, Jon Hales <jonhales@gmail.com> wrote:

=EF=BB=BF
Yes, Ross and I met through the museum. I haven't wanted any of h= is collection- so far.

I met a= nother son (Kieran), but haven't contacted Chris.


Regards=C2=A0


Jon

On = Thu, 26 Oct 2023, 21:38 SBC-85, <craig@sbc-85.com> wrote:
<= div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Jon,

Th= is story gets interesting..

When I get boards from the kids selling off their dad=E2=80=99s stuff, I = often ask a bit about the father, just so I know just a little about who ha= d the thing before me=E2=80=A6. Sort of an odd thing to want to know I supp= ose=E2=80=A6 anyway=E2=80=A6

The two S100 cards I bought were actually from the same estate, listed u= nder different seller accounts.=C2=A0 When I asked about the father and gav= e them your address, it turns out you and the father knew each other.. Ross= Milborne, passed in 2021.

Chris, who is the son selling, thinks they are about 30% through all the c= ollection.=C2=A0 I don=E2=80=99t know what else they are going to list, and= I don=E2=80=99t have a particular list of things I want.=C2=A0 They did ha= ve an 8080 BYTE S100 CPU card last week but I didn=E2=80=99t win that one.= =C2=A0 It sold for a reasonable price, but another $40 in shipping drops wh= at I could offer.=C2=A0 But I would have liked that card.

Chris is going to hold onto these two board= s for a week or so and then send these and whatever I find to buy in the me= an time on to you.=C2=A0

R= egards
Craig

On Oct 26, 2023, at 4:50 AM, Jon Hales <jonhales@gmail.com> wrote:

=EF=BB=BF
Hi Craig

My address i= s:

Jon Hales
23 Barton Road
Ha= slingfield
Cambridgeshire
CB23 1LL
United Kin= gdom

My eBay.co.uk identity is jh.dircon.net (when I si= gned up to eBay in 2000, my email provider was a company called Direct Conn= ection).

I'm a regular user of eBay and would = have no difficulty in placing orders on your behalf. It's more tricky i= f the items are being sold by auction with a specific end time - but not im= possible. If you were going to pay by PayPal I think they would only allow = shipping to the registered address.

I have used Ro= yal Mail Economy Postage for sending items to the US on a number of occasio= ns in the last 12 months - in each case hearing that the package had been d= elivered around 2-3 weeks after I posted it. I used a tracked service with = insurance - but I think the tracking only covers the UK part of the journey= . I assume USPS provides a different tracking number for the final part of = the journey.

My experiences of eBay Global Shippin= g have been good. But I know others would regard this as hazardous. However= , a potential method of shipping to you would be in the form of a Buy It No= w auction on eBay.co.uk where the price is the cost of my posting a package to = the UK depot (and I state I'm paying for shipping within UK). We would = agree on the exact time when I make the item live and would send you the it= em number.=C2=A0 I think eBay would be easy to deal with in the event of a = parcel being lost - and I know they refund the purchase cost if the item is= damaged in transit.

Have you any news from your c= ontact in Melbourne?

Best regards

Jon

On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 at 22:27, <craig@sbc-85.com> = wrote:

Thanks Jon,

=C2=A0

These a= re in the UK.=C2=A0 Let me see if I can just change my shipping address to = yours temporarily.

What address sho= uld I use?=C2=A0 That way I can just buy and pay and then settle up with yo= u when ready to ship.

=C2=A0=

Thank you

craig

=C2=A0=

=C2=A0

From: Jon Hales &= lt;jonhales@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2023 = 2:18 PM
To: SBC-85 <craig@sbc-85.com>
Subject: = Re: Prompt 80/85

=C2= =A0

Hi Craig

=C2=A0

I'm happy to collect/receive and send one shipment.=C2=A0=

=C2=A0

Would you like me to buy on your behalf (in the ca= se of UK eBay auctions with a fixed price)? European shipping to UK is much= more difficult after Brexit.

=C2=A0

We can disc= uss how you would prefer me to ship to you.

=C2=A0

Regards

=C2=A0=

Jon

=C2=A0

On Wed, 25 Oct 2023, 21:44 , <craig@sbc-85.com> wrote:

= Hi Jon,

=C2=A0

OK to say no=E2=80=A6. but there are some ebay items I = would like to buy (from different sellers) but shipping on each one to the = states is $45.=C2=A0 Would you be willing to collect the orders and ship as= one shipment to me?=C2=A0 I think I can just temporarily change my shippin= g address to yours.

=C2=A0

Again, no problem if it isn=E2=80=99t somet= hing you want to do.

Regards=

craig

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Further searching led to this project (attached). I tried to= follow the link, but PCBWay doesn't appear to have this among the shar= ed projects.

=C2=A0<= /u>

Regards

=C2=A0

Jon

=C2=A0

On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 08:25, = Jon Hales <jonhales@gmail.com> wrote:

With attachments

=C2=A0

On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 08:24, Jon Hales <jonhales@gmail.com>= ; wrote:

Hi= Craig

=C2=A0

The top result of a Google search for Pr= ompt-80 was oldcomputers.com, which has a unit and the manuals.<= u>

=C2=A0

<= div>

https://oldcomputermuseum.= com/prompt_80-85.html#

=C2=A0

I had seen you= r response on the VCF Forum to the person looking for the manual. If he is = able to get anything from oldcomputers, it would be good if he could provid= e a dump of the ROMS as well as good quality photos of his Prompt-80.

=C2=A0

It's good to have the help of your contact= in Melbourne.

=C2=A0=

Regards

<= /div>

=C2=A0

Jon

=C2= =A0

On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at= 06:23, SBC-85 <craig@sbc-85.com> wrote:

Jon,
Do you know anyone tha5 has a prom= pt 80 and would possibly have the user=E2=80=99s manual and schematics?<= /u>

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