Return-Path: Delivered-To: craig@sbc-85.com Received: from gator4254.hostgator.com by gator4254.hostgator.com with LMTP id cAbmKp1hzmMgmAwAcizydQ (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2023 04:29:49 -0600 Return-path: Envelope-to: craig@sbc-85.com Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Jan 2023 04:29:49 -0600 Received: from smtp2.interdsl.co.uk ([83.170.124.90]:58853) by gator4254.hostgator.com with esmtps (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.95) (envelope-from ) id 1pJu5E-003hoy-PJ for craig@sbc-85.com; Mon, 23 Jan 2023 04:29:49 -0600 Received: from smtp1.cix.co.uk ([77.92.64.18]) by interdsl.co.uk with MailEnable ESMTPS (version=TLS1_2 cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384); Mon, 23 Jan 2023 10:29:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 692 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2023 10:29:36 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO LM010) (86.129.211.217) by smtp1.cix.co.uk with SMTP; 23 Jan 2023 10:29:36 +0000 Message-ID: <0AE5B15F06A74F33A9DDA05FE0C2118B@LM010> From: "Sid Jones" To: References: <64FC3C8350544F9280E54E49FE4AC2D3@LM010> <0cba01d92ec4$863135e0$9293a1a0$@sbc-85.com> In-Reply-To: <0cba01d92ec4$863135e0$9293a1a0$@sbc-85.com> Subject: Re: Request For Information Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2023 10:29:25 -0000 Organization: Logic/Magic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002E_01D92F15.90F62750"; type="multipart/alternative" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 16.4.3528.331 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V16.4.3528.331 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-Spam-Flag: NO This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01D92F15.90F62750 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_002F_01D92F15.90F62750" ------=_NextPart_001_002F_01D92F15.90F62750 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the further info! BTW: The 8085 was the second processor that I used in anger. Worked in R&D for the Decca Survey Group and developed a microprocessor = replacement for stacks of analogue PLLs and a digital pattern matching = software trigger signal pattern detection in a system known as Hi-Fix/6. This got evolved into a system known as HyperFix. Got rid of a 19=E2=80=9D rack with a 10=E2=80=9D =E2=80=98sticking out = the back=E2=80=99 PSU for a much snappier and tidier/smaller case which = did a lot more than the analogue version... Then started my own business! More 8085, 8051, 8086 and the occasional = foray into heretical systems using something called = =E2=80=98big-endian=E2=80=99 numbers... Regards Sid From: craig@sbc-85.com=20 Sent: Monday, January 23, 2023 12:49 AM To: 'Sid Jones'=20 Subject: RE: Request For Information hi Sid, =20 there is also a vintage computer forum that on the intellect 8 that goes = in fits and spurts. a little activity today. someone there may have = assembler information, but it is about the same crowd of people. there = is also a facebook group but, again, the usual suspects. Jon Hales is a = good source of knowledge & information and is in the UK if you find = yourself over by Cambridge. =20 Intel Intellec 8 MCS | Vintage Computer Federation Forums (vcfed.org) =20 regards =20 craig =20 From: Sid Jones =20 Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2023 11:51 AM To: SBC-85 Subject: Re: Request For Information =20 The real thing that surprised me was that intel themselves don=E2=80=99t = have any references... =20 Just have to write it myself! It=E2=80=99s only been 45 years since I = did some 4040 assembly code... =20 Regards =20 Sid =20 From: SBC-85=20 Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2023 6:27 PM To: Sid Jones=20 Subject: Re: Request For Information =20 =EF=BB=BF=20 Hi Sid, =20 If you have already asked herb Johnson, he has already asked the user = group with no success. =20 Here is that discussion =20 https://groups.google.com/g/intel-devsys/c/BhE4On1pJJA/m/Nx2dEIiMBAAJ =20 =20 Regards =20 Craig On Jan 22, 2023, at 10:20 AM, SBC-85 wrote: =EF=BB=BF=20 Hi Sid, =20 Unfortunately, I do not. =20 Someone in our Intel google group (intel-devsys@googlegroups.com) was = recently asking for a tape version of an assembler, I forget which one. = You may want to consider joining that user group, there is a lot of = cumulative experience / files / documentation but we could always use = more.=20 =20 Regards =20 Craig On Jan 22, 2023, at 9:06 AM, Sid Jones = wrote: =EF=BB=BF=20 Mr Andrews:- =20 I=E2=80=99m refurbishing an intel intellec 4 mod 40 of 1975 vintage. = As used by myself in my college years 1975-1977. =20 The hardware restoration is going well, I have to build a 1702A = EPEOM programmer to fix the gently moulting bits in the ROM monitor = devices, =20 but I=E2=80=99m still searching for a copy of the 4040 RAM resident = native assembler programme that was distributed on 8-hole punched = tape... =20 Might you have any suggestions, or comments, please? *** =20 Regards =20 Sid Jones =20 *** If all else fails, I=E2=80=99ll have to write my own...=20 =20 Logic/Magic 12 Meadowcroft Cross Lanes Wrexham GB LL13 0UJ =20 (+44) 7836 592040 ------=_NextPart_001_002F_01D92F15.90F62750 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks for the further info!
 
BTW: The 8085 was the second processor that I used in anger.
 
Worked in R&D for the Decca Survey Group and developed a = microprocessor=20 replacement for stacks of analogue PLLs and a digital pattern matching = software=20 trigger signal pattern detection in a system known as Hi-Fix/6.
 
This got evolved into a system known as HyperFix.
 
Got rid of a 19=E2=80=9D rack with a 10=E2=80=9D =E2=80=98sticking = out the back=E2=80=99 PSU for a much=20 snappier and tidier/smaller case which did a lot more than the analogue=20 version...
 
Then started my own business! More 8085, 8051, 8086 and the = occasional=20 foray into heretical systems using something called = =E2=80=98big-endian=E2=80=99=20 numbers...
 
Regards
 
Sid
 
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2023 12:49 AM
Subject: RE: Request For Information
 

hi Sid,

 

there is also a vintage computer forum that on the = intellect=20 8 that goes in fits and spurts.  a little activity today.  = someone=20 there may have assembler information, but it is about the same crowd of=20 people.  there is also a facebook group but, again, the usual=20 suspects.  Jon Hales is a good source of knowledge & = information and is=20 in the UK if you find yourself over by Cambridge.

 

Intel=20 Intellec 8 MCS | Vintage Computer Federation Forums=20 (vcfed.org)

 

regards

 

craig

 

From: Sid Jones = <jonesthechip@logicmagic.co.uk>=20
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2023 11:51 AM
To: SBC-85=20 <craig@sbc-85.com>
Subject: Re: Request For=20 Information

 

The = real thing=20 that surprised me was that intel themselves don=E2=80=99t have any=20 references...

 

Just = have to=20 write it myself! It=E2=80=99s only been 45 years since I did some 4040 = assembly=20 code...

 

Regards

 

Sid

 

From: SBC-85=20

Sent: Sunday,=20 January 22, 2023 6:27 PM

To: Sid Jones=20

Subject: Re:=20 Request For Information

 

=EF=BB=BF=20

Hi=20 Sid,

 

If = you have=20 already asked herb Johnson, he has already asked the user group with no=20 success.

 

Here = is that=20 discussion

 

https://groups.google.com/g/intel-devsys/c/BhE4On1pJJA/m/Nx2dEIiMBA= AJ

 

 

Regards

 

Craig



On Jan 22, 2023, at 10:20 AM, = SBC-85=20 <craig@sbc-85.com>=20 wrote:

=EF=BB=BF=20

Hi=20 Sid,

 

Unfortunately,=20 I do not.

 

Someone in our=20 Intel google group (intel-devsys@googlegroups.c= om)=20 was recently asking for a tape version of an assembler, I forget which = one.  You may want to consider joining that user group, there is = a lot of=20 cumulative experience / files / documentation but we could always use = more.=20

 

Regards

 

Craig



On Jan 22, 2023, at 9:06 AM, = Sid Jones=20 <jonesthechip@logicmagic.co.= uk>=20 wrote:

=EF=BB=BF=20

Mr=20 Andrews:-

 

I=E2=80=99m=20 refurbishing an intel intellec 4 mod 40 of 1975 vintage. As used by = myself=20 in my college years 1975-1977.

 

The hardware=20 restoration is going well, I have to build a 1702A EPEOM programmer = to fix=20 the gently moulting bits in the ROM monitor=20 devices,

 

but I=E2=80=99m still=20 searching for a copy of the 4040 RAM resident native assembler = programme=20 that was distributed on 8-hole punched = tape...

 

Might you=20 have any suggestions, or comments, please? = ***

 

Regards

 

Sid=20 Jones

 

*** If all=20 else fails, I=E2=80=99ll have to write my own...

 

Logic/Magic

12=20 Meadowcroft

Cross=20 Lanes

Wrexham

GB LL13=20 0UJ

 

(+44) 7836=20 = 592040

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