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[67.188.113.125]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id mt19-20020a17090b231300b00202aa2b5295sm3602327pjb.36.2022.09.24.10.59.54 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 24 Sep 2022 10:59:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Kamprath Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_50EF0212-05B5-48F1-BE25-6E0D779E4718" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3696.120.41.1.1\)) Subject: Re: MOSTEK 3870 Assembler Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2022 10:59:53 -0700 References: <038134B7-77DA-4699-B7A5-FB5A44067E99@kamprath.net> <136D219B-1D3F-455E-8582-8F6A1450B994@sbc-85.com> To: SBC-85 In-Reply-To: <136D219B-1D3F-455E-8582-8F6A1450B994@sbc-85.com> Message-Id: <4D24244D-7B29-4D89-8433-41DB53986C67@kamprath.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3696.120.41.1.1) X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-Spam-Flag: NO --Apple-Mail=_50EF0212-05B5-48F1-BE25-6E0D779E4718 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Kind of. I am doing a video on the TEAMMATE Game Computer project, and = this board is a step towards that goal. Maybe I will iterate not he = MK38P70 board some and do a video on that. But my goal with it was to = prove to myself that I could program the MK3870, so I could modify the = program in the TEAMMATE computer. Michael Kamprath > On Sep 24, 2022, at 10:57 AM, SBC-85 wrote: >=20 > Are you going to do a video on your 38P70 board? >=20 >> On Sep 24, 2022, at 8:28 AM, Michael Kamprath = wrote: >>=20 >> =EF=BB=BFCraig, >>=20 >> Will do! My project is actually to create custom programs for my = childhood toy, the TEAMMATE Game Computer = , which is based not eh MK3870. = I will certainly tell you how it goes =E2=80=A6 but this is very much a = part time effort so it will come slowly. I did put together an extremely = simple MK38P0 computer = just to = =E2=80=9Cpractice=E2=80=9D programming the MK3870.=20 >>=20 >> The requested comment ha=C8=99 been left on your video. >>=20 >> Michael=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>> On Sep 24, 2022, at 12:55 AM, SBC-85 > wrote: >>>=20 >>> Hi Michael, >>>=20 >>> Thanks for letting me know about your assembler, DASM was driving me = nuts at times. I will pass this info on to a couple of others who have = continued writing my code for the this 3870 board. I am knee deep in my = intellec 8 project and want to finish some other boards I already have = on my bench. Unfortunately it will be a while before I get back to the = F8 projects including the next version of this board. I would really = encourage you to leave the same information in a comment on the 3870 = video about setting up DASM where others working with this hardware can = see. I have given away a number of these little boards, so I know there = are people interested in the 3870 who would be interested in a better = assembler. Of course, it is a pretty limited crowd that think the 3870 = is worth playing with, but maybe we can generate interest in your = assembler. >>>=20 >>> If you don=E2=80=99t mind, drop me a note now and then to keep me = updated. >>>=20 >>> Regards >>>=20 >>> Craig >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> On Sep 23, 2022, at 10:41 PM, Michael Kamprath = > wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> =EF=BB=BFHi! >>>>=20 >>>> I saw your videos on your MOSTEK 38P70 project. They were very = helpful for my own project using the chip, thanks! >>>>=20 >>>> I noted that you complained about some of the limitations of the = DASM assembler. If you are interested, I have created a MOSTEK 3870 = configuration for my customizable assembler, BespokeASM. You can check = it out here: >>>>=20 >>>> = https://github.com/michaelkamprath/bespokeasm/tree/main/examples/mostek-38= 70 = >>>> I will say that the specific things you complained about (notably = around address management) are much improved in BespokeASM. However, = while the mnemonics are the same, the general assembly syntax around = things like directives and labels is different from DASM. You can even = define assembler macros. >>>>=20 >>>> Note that I am at the start f my project, so I expect my MOSTEK = 3870 support to evolve some.=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Anyway, I just thought I=E2=80=99d share. >>>>=20 >>>> Michael Kamprath >>>>=20 >>=20 --Apple-Mail=_50EF0212-05B5-48F1-BE25-6E0D779E4718 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Kind = of. I am doing a video on the TEAMMATE Game Computer project, and this = board is a step towards that goal. Maybe I will iterate not he MK38P70 = board some and do a video on that. But my goal with it was to prove to = myself that I could program the MK3870, so I could modify the program in = the TEAMMATE computer.

Michael Kamprath

On Sep 24, 2022, at 10:57 AM, = SBC-85 <craig@sbc-85.com> wrote:

Are you going to do a video = on your 38P70 board?

On Sep 24, 2022, at 8:28 = AM, Michael Kamprath <michael@kamprath.net> wrote:

=EF=BB=BFCraig,

Will do! My project is = actually to create custom programs for my childhood toy, the TEAMMATE = Game Computer, which is based not eh MK3870. I will certainly tell = you how it goes =E2=80=A6 but this is very much a part time effort so it = will come slowly. I did put together an extremely simple MK38P0 computer just to = =E2=80=9Cpractice=E2=80=9D programming the MK3870. 

The requested comment = ha=C8=99 been left on your video.

Michael 



On Sep = 24, 2022, at 12:55 AM, SBC-85 <craig@sbc-85.com> wrote:

Hi Michael,

Thanks for letting me know about your assembler, DASM was = driving me nuts at times. I will pass this info on to a couple of others = who have continued writing my code for the this 3870 board.  I am = knee deep in my intellec 8 project and want to finish some other boards = I already have on my bench. Unfortunately it will be a while before I = get back to the F8 projects including the next version of this board. =  I would really encourage you to leave the same information in a = comment on the 3870 video about setting up DASM where others working = with this hardware can see.  I have given away a number of these = little boards, so I know there are people interested in the 3870 who = would be interested in a better assembler. Of course, it is a pretty = limited crowd that think the 3870 is worth playing with, but maybe we = can generate interest in your assembler.

If you = don=E2=80=99t mind, drop me a note now and then to keep me = updated.

Regards

Craig





On Sep = 23, 2022, at 10:41 PM, Michael Kamprath <michael@kamprath.net> wrote:

=EF=BB=BFHi!

I saw your videos on your MOSTEK 38P70 = project. They were very helpful for my own project using the chip, = thanks!

I = noted that you complained about some of the limitations of the DASM = assembler. If you are interested, I have created a MOSTEK 3870 = configuration for my customizable assembler, BespokeASM. You can check = it out here:

https://github.com/michaelkamprath/bespokeasm/tree/main/example= s/mostek-3870

I = will say that the specific things you complained about (notably around = address management) are much improved in BespokeASM. However, while the = mnemonics are the same, the general assembly syntax around things like = directives and labels is different from DASM. You can even define = assembler macros.

Note that I am at the start f my project, so I expect my = MOSTEK 3870 support to evolve some. 

Anyway, I just thought I=E2=80=99d = share.

Michael = Kamprath



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